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eazy
08-08-2005, 12:21 AM
is there any certain year of SC that I should stay away from? I'm planning on doing a conversion as soon as I get the car, or at least begin aquiring parts. also is there anything I should be looking for car wise, I will be swapping in a 6 speed, but is it that much harder to do with an auto car versus an automatic, minus removing the dash to install the pedal? I prefer the 97-99 cars, I'm actually going to look at a 97 tommorrow afternoon. Thanks for the help as all this is completely new to me. :fingersx:

Brown Duckz
08-08-2005, 12:25 AM
is there any certain year of SC that I should stay away from? I'm planning on doing a conversion as soon as I get the car, or at least begin aquiring parts. also is there anything I should be looking for car wise, I will be swapping in a 6 speed, but is it that much harder to do with an auto car versus an automatic, minus removing the dash to install the pedal? I prefer the 97-99 cars, I'm actually going to look at a 97 tommorrow afternoon. Thanks for the help as all this is completely new to me. :fingersx:Well from the post I can't figure out what kind of conversion you are going to do.... NA-T, GTE, or 1JZ? If you're going for a 6-spd swap I'd start out with a 5-spd if possible. They ran it all the way to 2000, so 97-2000 is the style you're after, but after 97 there are NO 5-spd cars, keep that in mind. As far as answering your first question, that would depend on what you plan to do.

eazy
08-08-2005, 12:32 AM
plan on doing a na-t conversion, I have been combing every car site around for the last few weeks looking for a car. I really want the lighter blue with black interior in a 97-up car. But no luck on the 5 speed in that color combo. I'd sacrafice the 5 speed just to get the color i want and just swap the auto out later. so there is no real downfall with the 97 up cars then?

Brown Duckz
08-08-2005, 12:34 AM
plan on doing a na-t conversion, I have been combing every car site around for the last few weeks looking for a car. I really want the lighter blue with black interior in a 97-up car. But no luck on the 5 speed in that color combo. I'd sacrafice the 5 speed just to get the color i want and just swap the auto out later. so there is no real downfall with the 97 up cars then?You should talk to some of the OBD2 guys on here with turbo kits..... they'd be able to tell you some of the problems you may encounter. If it were up to me I'd pickup a clean OBD1 [92-95] since there aren't any real differences.

eazy
08-08-2005, 12:39 AM
You should talk to some of the OBD2 guys on here with turbo kits..... they'd be able to tell you some of the problems you may encounter. If it were up to me I'd pickup a clean OBD1 [92-95] since there aren't any real differences.

good idea, i posted up another thread. what about AEM, anyone using this on the SC's?

Brown Duckz
08-08-2005, 12:41 AM
good idea, i posted up another thread. what about AEM, anyone using this on the SC's?It may be easier if you would refer to everything as 2jz-ge engine.... while there may not be an AEM SC300, there are NA Supras with it, and they use the same motor, and the same turbo kit you are going to buy. AEM isn't necessary unless you're going after a high amount of horsepower in my opinion. SAFC is sufficient for entry-level power.

eazy
08-08-2005, 12:51 AM
im guessing the ECM on an SC and Supra is very similar then? did the Supras also go to OBD2 in 96? I was under the impression every car manu. was required to do so after 95.

Brown Duckz
08-08-2005, 12:52 AM
im guessing the ECM on an SC and Supra is very similar then? did the Supras also go to OBD2 in 96? I was under the impression every car manu. was required to do so after 95.Yes, 96-98 Supras are OBD1.

Bean
08-08-2005, 01:31 AM
It may be easier if you would refer to everything as 2jz-ge engine.... while there may not be an AEM SC300, there are NA Supras with it, and they use the same motor, and the same turbo kit you are going to buy. AEM isn't necessary unless you're going after a high amount of horsepower in my opinion. SAFC is sufficient for entry-level power.

There's a ton of AEM SC300s out there, not quite as many as NA Supras... but installing it is the SAME EXACT method for either car. AEM is the way to go for serious power and has tons of potential later on when you're ready to upgrade.

Example:
you put a kit together that has a 67mm turbo that makes 600whp on pump gas with 80lb injectors

dang! you're wanting MORE horsepower! So you pick up that 74mm turbo and 4" dp/mp combo, and run 96lb injectors.

Tuning it is nothing more than telling the AEM that you're running 96lb injectors and it calculates the new maps for you based upon the older ones you already had. Might require some fine tuning on a dyno, but it will still run great. Then you bolt on the turbo, and AWAY YOU GO!


Yes, 96-98 Supras are OBD1.
Thats not true actually :( 96+ Supras and SCs are all OBD2

scnat
08-08-2005, 07:24 AM
i have an AEM EMS SC300

Brown Duckz
08-08-2005, 08:34 AM
Thats not true actually :( 96+ Supras and SCs are all OBD2A typo... :)

eazy
08-08-2005, 09:55 AM
There's a ton of AEM SC300s out there, not quite as many as NA Supras... but installing it is the SAME EXACT method for either car. AEM is the way to go for serious power and has tons of potential later on when you're ready to upgrade.

Example:
you put a kit together that has a 67mm turbo that makes 600whp on pump gas with 80lb injectors

dang! you're wanting MORE horsepower! So you pick up that 74mm turbo and 4" dp/mp combo, and run 96lb injectors.

Tuning it is nothing more than telling the AEM that you're running 96lb injectors and it calculates the new maps for you based upon the older ones you already had. Might require some fine tuning on a dyno, but it will still run great. Then you bolt on the turbo, and AWAY YOU GO!



Thats not true actually :( 96+ Supras and SCs are all OBD2

so then as long as you are going to use AEM for big power down the road the obd2 isnt an obstacle at all, correct?

Bean
08-08-2005, 10:38 PM
so then as long as you are going to use AEM for big power down the road the obd2 isnt an obstacle at all, correct?


That is correct. The whole problem with OBD2 is the ECU keeps trying to change things back to get "emissions friendly"... that can cause a lot of problems obviously.

AEM completely eliminates the factory ECU. You dont even use the stock O2 sensors anymore; you really need to upgrade to the UEGO wideband... its plug and play for the AEM.