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Todd1225
09-09-2005, 11:50 AM
Just wanted to let everyone know the experience that I had when trying to purchase a turbo kit from 93'widebody (93gt3000 on clublexus.com)

Item for sale:
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...31&page=1&pp=15
http://www.clubna-t.com/forums/show...40&page=1&pp=30

NA-T kit for NA Supra and SC300, $1300. After speaking with seller, agreed on a cashier's check as form of payment (priority mail, return receipt). Pictures of the check and tracking number of priority mail were sent to seller to verify that funds were being sent, a total of $1360.23 for the kit and shipping. The money was send out the day after speaking with the seller, which was a holiday so I had to send it out next day.

Here are the pictures that I provided:
Picture of tracking slip (http://www.zxturbo.com/images/misc/tracking2.jpg)
Picture of Check (http://www.zxturbo.com/images/misc/check2.jpg)

Communication:
I spoke with seller numerous times and assured him that funds were on the way, he assured me he was not scamming me, etc. He even said that he might ship the kit out before receiving the check.

Things start to go wrong:
Seller has posted the kit on numerous forums, I saw on clublexus.com first. Now that seller finds out that a ton of people want the kit, he starts saying "first come first served" or "whoever's money I get first". I spoke with him and assured him that my money was already in the mail. I'm in GA, he's in CA, so it takes 3 days even with priority mail. Had I shipped it overnight, it would have gotten there the same time as the winning buyer's did, now seller has payment twice and I'm stuck trying to stop the payment.

Communication stops:
Tried to call Seller all day on Thursday the 8th, no answer and only voicemail, left several messages but no response. As I'm browsing here and on Club Lexus, I see that the kit is sold and on it's way to another buyer!

My Complaint
1. Seller changed the rules in the middle of the game and sold to first person that he got money from, even though he was told and provided proof that my money was on the way.
2. This has cost me time out of work to try and stop the check delivery. It has also cost me the cost of the cashier's check, the postage, and the cancelled check fee. Plus I have to wait for them to put the money back in my account.
3. Seller did not call me to tell me he had sold the kit to someone else. He was not able to be reached (said he had a phone problem) and he did not respond at all until early this morning. The moment he sold it he could have told me by phone or email, he had all my contact info. Instead he sends an email after midnight to me which I saw this morning.

This guy was not only a jerk, but he also changed the terms of the sale in the middle of things even when he knew I had already mailed out a check, provided pictures and a tracking number. So basically he had two people sending him money at once.

Now I'm out the fees, time, and hassle. I think I have good grounds to give him this post and a bad seller rating as seller has other items for sale on here. I would not encourage anyone else to do business with him, as his posts on all three boards were to sell his stuff only I don't think he will be around much longer, even though he's trying to unload the VPC and IAC and other stuff. BUYER BEWARE! I emailed the mod for this section, so hopefully we can keep anyone else from being out money and being hassled.

I'm sure the seller will come on here and tell me that I'm whining, etc which he already has and that is fine. I'm covered, the check is stopped, if this prevents others from getting screwed then it's worth the heckling that I'm gonna get. Seller has a "hey, everyone send money and whomever's I get first then you are the winner", "everyone else have fun stopping your checks and paying fees to do so". Judging by his posts and his phone skills, I pretty much expected him to be childish.

93'widebody
09-09-2005, 12:27 PM
YOU CANT SAY THAT IM A BAD SELLER, :gfight: YOU PROBABLY NEVER SENT THE CHECK.
Anybody can get a cashiers check and never send it, or even cancel it on the way
You knew i go to school at nigth, and i check my email when i get home..
I dont know about GA, but when you send priority mail its is at the most 3 days, and it is 4 days since you agreed to buy my kit.
SORRY LOOSER.......................
and i told you that the rules never changed
This is not BURGER KING, so you cant always get it your way,
:drama: :drama: dude im not your mommy, so dont cry to me, :ohnoes: :ohnoes:
i told you clearly from the beginning first come first served, and as you see you are not the only one that wanted the kit, so far you check hasnt come in. (friday)
Im not going to wait around for you, im glad you didnt get the kit, i explained you, if your money comes in late you are out (of whatever expenses you have, mail,etc..) Understand, should of told your wife to send the money overnight. GO CRY TO THE POST OFFICE...(IF YOU DID IN FACT SEND THE CHECK)
SEND YOU THE KIT WITH OUT GETTTING PAID?, ARE YOU CRAZY. :jerkit: :jerkit:
people YOU SNOOZE YOU LOOSE. is your responsibilty for your funds getting to me
look at the day the ad was posted, and the date now, tons of people email me but only one guy's funds really got to me.

Todd1225
09-09-2005, 02:10 PM
I fully expected you to crack jokes and be immature. You can't even put a sentence together. Your attitude was, I'm gonna keep everyone in the dark and whoever's check gets here first, it's sold. Then let everyone else figure out how to cancel their checks. You can tell by all the posts on both boards that people were constantly asking "what's going on" with this kit, let me know, etc.

What a normal seller would say:
"I have proof that someone has send funds, let me get it and make sure it's good, but if it fails through I'll talk with other people".

What you did:
Your attitude was "everyone, send your $1300 dollars checks, and which ever one gets here first wins!" to everyone who was late "have fun paying fees to cancel your check!".

Had you told me from the beginning.."Todd, everyone is gonna send me a check or use paypal, etc..whoever pays me first wins". I would have told you to take a hike. If you wanna act immature and post jokes that is fine, judging by your language skills on the phone and your typing...I expect nothing less.

My money is already back in my account so :p

I certainly hope no one else does business with you.

2JZMKIV1
09-09-2005, 06:49 PM
I'm Sorry To Who Ever Wanted This Kit,but I Talked To The Seller And Told Me I Was Risking Sending Money, B/c Of The Other Buyer Already Sending Funds To Him From Ga But Have Not Yet Arrived At That Momment,so Seller Told Me First Come First Serve So I Decided To Wire The Money. And Is Now On The Way. and Is Actually A Really Good Guy To Do Business With[/color]

michaelvanle
09-09-2005, 08:59 PM
No loss money, all is good.

93'widebody
09-09-2005, 09:14 PM
todd
your check is on the way back to you, the mail man left a notice on my door about 1pm, and i went to the post office, and requested for the letter to be sent back to you.
ps. next time you buy something, and you want it, dont send the funds via regular mail, priority mail works best, and is not that expensive or overnight of course,
whining wont buy you a turbo kit, but if it makes you feel better go ahead, just remember you are not the only buyer.

OH BY THE WAY ENGLISH IS MY SECOND LANGUAGE, SO MAKE FUN OF IT AL YOU WANT. AND IF BEING RACIAL IS YOUR THING PISS OFF, :wackfire: :wackfire: did i spell it right. todd correct me please.

Kirk
09-09-2005, 09:53 PM
I do not agree on playing the "first check to get here wins" game but I also agree that if Todd gets 100% of his money back then there is nothing to worry about in this deal. Thanks 93'widebody for doing the right thing and sending his money back.

Todd1225
09-09-2005, 10:07 PM
I'm Sorry To Who Ever Wanted This Kit,but I Talked To The Seller And Told Me I Was Risking Sending Money, B/c Of The Other Buyer Already Sending Funds To Him From Ga But Have Not Yet Arrived At That Momment,so Seller Told Me First Come First Serve So I Decided To Wire The Money. And Is Now On The Way. and Is Actually A Really Good Guy To Do Business With[/color]

I'm glad he did not do you like he did me, I hope the kit is in great shape for your sake. It's not your fault i was taken advantage of. My DaveH kit is on the way! :thumbup:

Todd1225
09-09-2005, 10:16 PM
I do not agree on playing the "first check to get here wins" game but I also agree that if Todd gets 100% of his money back then there is nothing to worry about in this deal. Thanks 93'widebody for doing the right thing and sending his money back.

Thanks man! Had I not been a long time customer of the bank I would have racked up the fee for the check, the postage, and the cancelled check fee. (about $50) I didn't get my money back out of him being honest, I got it back because my wife used to work for the bank, so she put a stop payment on it. Once I saw that someone else bought it, it was a mad scramble of...holy #$@#, how do I cancel my check right now!!!

I'm glad multiple people didn't send a check like I did. Again, thanks Kirk for the kind words!!!!

93'widebody
09-09-2005, 11:20 PM
SURE IM THE EVIL GUY
Put your self in my situation, so many people wanted the kit, very few people actually acted on it, todd send his money, BUT IT WAS TOO LATE! i told everyone first come first served.
Ok so Todd said he would buy the kit, he did in fact sent his money, regular mail( not priority mail like you said, so you can cry all you want and make a big deal about it, but you fail to send your money priority mail, i told everyone clearly, no money in my hands, the kit is still avilable)except all of the sudden once pending sale of the kit, they also wanted the kit.
Im sorry about the way it went, but i was very clear about it alll the way through,
Todd you made me wait for your money order, about 4 days, i request it to be sent back to you today i told you, check your tracking info, YOU SHOULD HAVE IT BACK NEXT WEEK and stop crying, if i owe you 35 cents for postage let me know, since your WIFE WAIVED the stop check payment FEE, thanx.
CONGRATS ON YOUR PURCHASE FOR THE DAVEH KIT
DUDE GET OVER IT
I THINK THIS IS OLD ALREADY....

Kirk i have paypal now so in the future there wont be no more miss understanding.

93'widebody
09-15-2005, 04:11 PM
i was checking to see if you got your check?

Todd1225
09-16-2005, 08:08 AM
i was checking to see if you got your check?

No.

93'widebody
09-27-2005, 06:02 PM
i ckeck on the tracking information, you should of received it by know, but since you wont post that you received it here is the info from the usps.........
Label/Receipt Number: 7005 0390 0001 0635 7088
Status: Notice Left

We attempted to deliver your item at 3:28 pm on September 22, 2005 in GRIFFIN, GA 30224 and a notice was left. It can be redelivered or picked up at the Post Office. If the item is unclaimed, it will be returned to the sender. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.

Brown Duckz
09-27-2005, 06:11 PM
Someone tell me the status of this.

93'widebody
09-27-2005, 10:20 PM
i posted the tracking information on the last thread, usps website says they attemted to deliver the check on the 22nd so by now he must have received it, he is a coward and he wont post that he got it, but the track info shows that check is in GA.
hope that clears it out for everybody.

SC2jzgte
09-27-2005, 11:42 PM
First come first served is BS imho. I went through that and I told the seller "Hey I am not sending the money without knowing I am getting the product but it was all good in the end.

I hope evrything works out for both of you but that is NO WAY to sell something. You got 10+ people sometimes sending you their money and they are COUNTING on what is usually a really great deal. Whoever does not get their money to you first is gonna do nothing but give you a crappy Buyer/Seller rating thats just common sense.

First come first served should be banned! Its best to deliver something to a persons work and not home because atleast someone can sign for it right?

93'widebody
09-28-2005, 07:31 PM
first come first served sound evil, but if you are in the selling position, you would understand, its a bold way of saying if you going to buy it, buy it and dont be dreaming about it for ever, in my case i received over 90 messages, about how everybody wanted it, and a week went buy, nobody paid, second week pass and sold, and all of the sudden everybody was ready with money, and a week later after waiting for funds, i got a call in the morning and a i had my money within hours, see thats the way to go but for almos 3 weeks i was hearing from everyone, please let buy the kit, i will pay right now and other bull s...t, now the rest of the parts are still available, and more than 10 people want some of the other parts, and as of now same s...t story, until somebody pays for it and it starts again,
if you ever want a sell something, you must have a reason, and im sure is not to be hearing crap stories for weeks......

Todd1225
09-28-2005, 08:41 PM
I got a notice of a delivery attempt last week, we were not at home. I'm not a coward, just no sense in:http://www.zxturbo.com/images/misc/beatdeadhorse.gif

scnat
09-29-2005, 02:32 AM
enough